RENDER UNTO CAESAR Act

[studentloandebt]

This legislation is up for scrutiny until November 27th

Category: Charter Amendment

Author: Student Loan Debt

Chapter I: General Provisions

1. This act may be referred to as the "Ruling Engaging Native Directorship, Especially Requiring Undoing The Obliteration Carried Against Established Supervisory Authority. Renegotiate. Act", the "RENDER UNTO CAESAR Act", the "Render Unto Caesar Act", or the "RUC Act"
2. This act will come into force upon passage, but the role will not need to be filled until the next Council election.

Chapter II: Ruling Engaging Native Directorship, Especially Requiring Undoing The Obliteration Carried Against Established Supervisory Authority. Renegotiate. Act

1. All text that is both bold and underlined are additions while all text that is striken through are removals.
2. Section 2.2., Subsection 2.2.1., Clause 2 shall be replaced with the following

The Council shall consist of the President of Congress, World Assembly Delegate, Secretary General, Minister of Justice, Minister of Foreign Affairs, Minister of Domestic Affairs, and Minister of Role Play.

3. In Section 2.2., there shall be a subsection created at Subsection 2.2.4. for the President of Congress and all Subsections below shall adjust their numbering to raise by 1. In this new Subsection 2.2.4., the following shall be added

Subsection 2.2.4 - The President of Congress

1. The President shall be the presiding officer of both the Congress and the Council, charged with residing as head of state of the DSA and being a supervisor to Congress and the Council.
2. The President shall be considered to have been elected World Assembly Delegate upon their election as President of Congress. Should the President decline to serve as the World Assembly Delegate, the position shall be considered to be vacant and therefore subject to a special election. Should a Member of Congress running for President decline during their run to also serve as World Assembly Delegate, then the position of World Assembly Delegate shall be offered as an additional office up for election outside of the Presidency.
3. The President of Congress and the World Assembly Delegate, when not the same Nationstates player, shall have one (1) vote apiece in both the Congress and the Council.

4. The authority and duties of the President of Congress include but are not limited to;


● Coordinating the activities and efforts of the Council;
● Monitoring the Council for efficiency and effectiveness;
● Conducting Council Meetings;
● Executing or delegating the duties of vacant, absent, or unavailable Council members;
● Presiding over legal cases involving a recused High Judge, but only if the case does not involve the President of Congress;
● Executing the recommendations of the other Ministers as they relate to Administrative Privileges without hesitation or prejudice;
● Requesting Founder intervention;

4. Subsection 2.2.5, which will be the new number for the section regarding the World Assembly Delegate, shall have the following edits

2. Should the position of World Assembly Delegate of the Democratic Socialist Assembly region be occupied by a Resident who has not been elected in

accordance to the rules of this Charter, the Founder may eject that World Assembly Delegate at the request of either the President or another Minister.
3. The World Assembly Delegate shall execute the recommendations of the rest of the Council as they pertain to Administrative Privileges without hesitation or prejudice.
3. The World Assembly Delegate, when not also the President of Congress, shall only be permitted to exercise Administrative Privileges as directed by the President of Congress.

4. Should the position of President of Congress fall vacant, the World Assembly Delegate shall serve as the President until the end of the term if the vacancy occurs within twenty-one (21) days or a special election is held.

5. Subsection 2.2.12 shall have the following edits

1. The World Assembly Delegate President of Congress shall grant Ministers Administrative Privileges by appointing them as Regional Officers, and shall dismiss them once they leave office.


3. When a Minister has been appointed as a Regional Officer, the World Assembly Delegate President of Congress shall avoid exercising Administrative Privileges in the areas over which the Minister has authority.

6. Section 2.3., Subsection 2.3.5. shall make the following edits

1. The Founder may only exercise Administrative Privileges at the request of the Congress, the President of Congress, and/or a majority of the Council, and may not disrupt or inhibit the ability of a democratically-elected World Assembly Delegate to exercise Administrative Privileges.

3. The Founder may eject and/or ban a non-democratically elected

World Assembly Delegate at the request of the Council and/or the President of Congress.

7. Section 3.1, Subection 3.1.2. shall be edited to include the role of "The President" among Forum roles

[Marxstaat SR]

Having reviewed the act, the delegation of the S.R.M. to the DSA are pleased to see a new proposal to the Congress. We do however have some preliminary questions.

i. Does the council believe that the Assembly is now in a position where a more complex government is feasible. Whilst activity has been improving - even since our time here, are there enough members willing to put their names forward for elections? The recent council elections were, we understand, the first in a long while where each position was filled by a different nation. This is a good thing but the elections were not competitive. In addition to this being another position for which there will need to be candidates, we also ask in relation to Paragraph 2 of Subsection 2.2.4 which would require further special elections for the World Assembly Delegate if the President declines to take this position.

ii. Will the position of World Assembly Delegate (WAD) retain it's executive, border control and embassies responsibilities? If so, and if the role of WAD has previously been acting essentially as President, does it not make a new Presidential position redundant?

Whilst we are not wholly against this proposition, we just want to raise the question of whether the community is healthy enough uet for such a significant change.

Thank you,

S.R.M.

[studentloandebt]

Nov 25, 2022 0:06:24 GMT Marxstaat SR said:

Having reviewed the act, the delegation of the S.R.M. to the DSA are pleased to see a new proposal to the Congress. We do however have some preliminary questions.

i. Does the council believe that the Assembly is now in a position where a more complex government is feasible. Whilst activity has been improving - even since our time here, are there enough members willing to put their names forward for elections? The recent council elections were, we understand, the first in a long while where each position was filled by a different nation. This is a good thing but the elections were not competitive. In addition to this being another position for which there will need to be candidates, we also ask in relation to Paragraph 2 of Subsection 2.2.4 which would require further special elections for the World Assembly Delegate if the President declines to take this position.

ii. Will the position of World Assembly Delegate (WAD) retain it's executive, border control and embassies responsibilities? If so, and if the role of WAD has previously been acting essentially as President, does it not make a new Presidential position redundant?

Whilst we are not wholly against this proposition, we just want to raise the question of whether the community is healthy enough uet for such a significant change.

Thank you,

S.R.M.

I. The Presidency both doesn't add to the issue and also takes away from the issue. It does not add because I believe there has only ever been 2 times in DSA history when the presidency and WAD were separate. Of those two times, the 1st was when the then-president wanted to leave the government but also didn't want to, so he ran as WAD but had someone else (me) be president. That was a hyperspecific example. The only other time was when the final president was someone who prided themselves off of never having joined the WA. Outside of those two times, it's never happened. It is extremely unlikely to happen again, so both the presidency and WAD will likely always be the same person. This also takes away from the issue of not having enough people running for Minister because the President, officially, would take over the roles of vacant Ministries. Before, i was unofficially doing that with no Charter support for it. With this, there will now be a Charter mandate for it. 

Alongside that, there hasn't been a single day since I first became a Minister in 2019 that I haven't been in the Cabinet/Council. I became WAD to stabilize it so we wouldn't have to transition every 3 months as my presence within the Council is guaranteed. Alongside other legislation I passed through Congress over the year that allowed me to fill in vacant roles and have multiple roles within the Council, I've been essentially de facto president for years now. This would be solidifying it as explicit and no longer relying on me unofficially being an aide. I fully intend to run for President and be WAD. So, while positions within the Council will expand, the number of players needed will not increase. 

II. When the presidency was abolished, parts of its executive responsibilities were transferred to the WAD, powers of which they did not have for the near decade that the positions existed. These powers will return to the President. While some were ones exclusive to the presidency, like appointing regional officers (I forgot to include that in the bill. I'm gonna put that in now), these alone did not make the WAD be like the President. The Presidency was a leadership role that help coordinate and supervise the Council. This is not the job of the WAD as its job is to represent the DSA in the World Assembly and not to coordinate the Council nor be a supervisor nor have any other powers besides control of the WA. All of that was my own personal doing and, if I left office, the next WAD (assuming presidency wouldn't be a thing) would have no responsibility of doing the same. 

[Marxstaat SR]

Nov 25, 2022 1:55:06 GMT studentloandebt said:

Nov 25, 2022 0:06:24 GMT Marxstaat SR said:

Having reviewed the act, the delegation of the S.R.M. to the DSA are pleased to see a new proposal to the Congress. We do however have some preliminary questions.

i. Does the council believe that the Assembly is now in a position where a more complex government is feasible. Whilst activity has been improving - even since our time here, are there enough members willing to put their names forward for elections? The recent council elections were, we understand, the first in a long while where each position was filled by a different nation. This is a good thing but the elections were not competitive. In addition to this being another position for which there will need to be candidates, we also ask in relation to Paragraph 2 of Subsection 2.2.4 which would require further special elections for the World Assembly Delegate if the President declines to take this position.

ii. Will the position of World Assembly Delegate (WAD) retain it's executive, border control and embassies responsibilities? If so, and if the role of WAD has previously been acting essentially as President, does it not make a new Presidential position redundant?

Whilst we are not wholly against this proposition, we just want to raise the question of whether the community is healthy enough uet for such a significant change.

Thank you,

S.R.M.

I. The Presidency both doesn't add to the issue and also takes away from the issue. It does not add because I believe there has only ever been 2 times in DSA history when the presidency and WAD were separate. Of those two times, the 1st was when the then-president wanted to leave the government but also didn't want to, so he ran as WAD but had someone else (me) be president. That was a hyperspecific example. The only other time was when the final president was someone who prided themselves off of never having joined the WA. Outside of those two times, it's never happened. It is extremely unlikely to happen again, so both the presidency and WAD will likely always be the same person. This also takes away from the issue of not having enough people running for Minister because the President, officially, would take over the roles of vacant Ministries. Before, i was unofficially doing that with no Charter support for it. With this, there will now be a Charter mandate for it. 

Alongside that, there hasn't been a single day since I first became a Minister in 2019 that I haven't been in the Cabinet/Council. I became WAD to stabilize it so we wouldn't have to transition every 3 months as my presence within the Council is guaranteed. Alongside other legislation I passed through Congress over the year that allowed me to fill in vacant roles and have multiple roles within the Council, I've been essentially de facto president for years now. This would be solidifying it as explicit and no longer relying on me unofficially being an aide. I fully intend to run for President and be WAD. So, while positions within the Council will expand, the number of players needed will not increase. 

II. When the presidency was abolished, parts of its executive responsibilities were transferred to the WAD, powers of which they did not have for the near decade that the positions existed. These powers will return to the President. While some were ones exclusive to the presidency, like appointing regional officers (I forgot to include that in the bill. I'm gonna put that in now), these alone did not make the WAD be like the President. The Presidency was a leadership role that help coordinate and supervise the Council. This is not the job of the WAD as its job is to represent the DSA in the World Assembly and not to coordinate the Council nor be a supervisor nor have any other powers besides control of the WA. All of that was my own personal doing and, if I left office, the next WAD (assuming presidency wouldn't be a thing) would have no responsibility of doing the same. 

Ah, that's a good point. Separating the two roles leaves the door open to players who might not want to be part of the WA. (Can't say i blame them)

On the second point, we just wanted to confirm whether responsibilities would be separated and whether this will be codified to avoid any conflict.

Thank you,

SRM